Curse

Dakna DiHarr · Aug 10, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by Xorena

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

I can FUlly AGree to all of this except the Monthly Fee, i MYself have the same problems with Looking for Ature players for pvp. but a monthly fee not every1 can afford that. inculding me. In pvp i find every1 jsut blaming others. or i meet new players and they are just overall stupid. or like u said just go around hitting on people with nothing decent about them. most people on this game are very imature andand no respect for others at all. they speak with no care for aynthing except wat they want. the few friends i have elft in ym guild i think hmm 5 memebrs left outa 60. i booted every1 that acts as u say. for thefew left i would willingly give u 4 ectos free or 50k if u needed it. i dont mind going broke helping people but its how others dont apreciate anything. never a thanks. os in return i am left with the only 5 people i can trust in this game to be respectful and apreciative to watwe do.

So i cant gvg no more owell. i was creating a build to fully repalace edenials. taht will own monks no mater wat if done properly. without the proper players i gave 50-60 people 2 weeks to get 8 skills. i can understand work and everything. but 8 skills is 2 hours max tog et them.

so im ;eft to these few players. yesterday i was showing a guy a hieldof mine u know im the kinda guy taht trusts a person till they screw taht up themself. i respect peopels rights. but i dropped it on hthe ground for him to c the stats, hes at the edge of my agro circle so im thinking why not. he uses the assasin skill "return and nabs my 20k shield" im like w/e i told him keep it then i know u wont give it back. and no point to whining. this game is rather said none the less. comunity is wat makes these games. until u find a group of players atleast afew this game is hopeless. i dont HoH becuz people discriminate Rank and then the others suck. my first time to HA i amde it to HoH and never went after that. To join a decent gvg guild they have these rediculus requirements of 250k faction or ank 6. every now and then i find were they look for true skill. and test u in a scrimmage or so. not buy simpel numbers u can buy.

striderkaaru · Aug 10, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

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Originally Posted by Xorena

I am so frustrated lately

. My husband and I have almost finished getting all of the skills from prophecies and factions. Now we want to PVP. But argh, the people who we run into are just unfathomably clueless, rude, childish or all of the above!

We've been trying to meet new people, so one of my adverts in HA and TA is "husb/wife duo seeks to meet group of mature people to pvp with regularly" and you wouldn't believe the inane and rude comments I get back. "OMG you let your wife play?" (Hey buddy I'm the wife) to "Mature? so you want to talk about sex?" (uh, no, mature is not a measure of what crude topic you choose for discussion, rather, what you choose not to talk about). Or we get on vent/ts with these supposed "mature people" are bragging about smoking dope or start hitting on me as soon as they find out I am a woman.

I am so close to fed up. I just want to pvp as a team with people who don't want to talk about pot and sex all the time.

On a side note, I believe a huge downfall to this game is they don't charge a nominal monthly fee. At least a monthly fee would keep the kiddies out who can't do anything without mommy or daddy's credit card.

Anyway, thank you for letting me vent. Argh.

part of the problem is that you're not looking in the right place. advertising in game has never been a good way to get mature players since most mature players have already settled into a good guild/alliance. the ones that are left behind (the "pugs" so to speak) are the ones you'd rather not play with.

the second part of the problem is that you are trying to get into pvp, which is a highly competitive environment. thus, there will be egos and rude behavior that will get in the way in a lot of pvp guilds.

honestly, the best course of action is to shop around. being on guru is already a first step. browse through the forum and take note of who the mature/helpful posters are and try to look at what guild/alliance they are in. most times, likeminded people will tend to stick together. after a while, you'll start to recognize personalities of posters and frequently seen guild tags. you might want to pm them to inquire about their guild policies and if they are recruiting.

Energizer Deth Buni · Aug 10, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

Sorry to hear that OP, but this game is about PVP. Most of the PVP guilds I have seen are full of tension and pissed off people. People demanding that no one make any mistakes... etc. You see this when you go to Tombs or Elite missions. People demanding that you have a specific build or get out. The developers have unfortunately made a game for Elitism and recently confessed to it.

GloryFox · Aug 11, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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The developers have unfortunately made a game for Elitism and recently confessed to it.

Can you show me where they said that?

Anyways I left the PvP area a long time ago and was better off for it. Way to many bad players there with "FAME" (like I give a rip). I blame the PvPr's for the assassin hate because they can't think outside the box and they all made an assassin for PvE thinking it was easy. (heh Monsters don’t rage quit) They are too hung up on roles and not for having fun or an original thought. Then there are the FF types who want you to boost their ego through FF. My suggestion is to look for a guild you and your husband can contribute to there are many out there that have husband and wife teams that don’t talk sex and drugs.

BTW I get compliments for maturity all of the time and then they ask my age... I say I'm 35 and proud to be a gamer. They then get all immature and say "WTF are you doing here?" Least they believe people my age actually make this game.

Energizer Deth Buni · Aug 11, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

It seems ArenaNet has taken that feedback to heart. "We've learned some lessons from that, and going forward, we want to be designing things so that they're much more friendly for the casual players. We don't want to make certain areas of the world off-limits," said O'Brien

http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/724/724616p3.html

Enchanted Warrior · Aug 11, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

I wish ignore made the character dissappear with their text. Now that would be an improvment. Personally I'm tired of dealing with the products of weekend binges, these kids could not have all been planned.

xiaotsu · Aug 11, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Warrior

I wish ignore made the character dissappear with their text. Now that would be an improvment. Personally I'm tired of dealing with the products of weekend binges, these kids could not have all been planned.

There's a reason the character can't disappear when you ignore them...it's called "PvP", and I'd rather not die because I ignored someone and can't see them in the battle.

Erm, other than the monthly fee part of your post, I whole-heartedly agree.

torquemada · Aug 11, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31

Let's just say GW community is red iris flowers compared to those of WoW. So if you ever get tired of unsuccessfull abortion products in GW, go play WoW for a month and you'll want to adopt em afterwards.

azuresun · Aug 11, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by Ken Dei

The maturity level of the entire world is continuously collapsing in on itself. In both the virtual and real world. People just keep doing stupid things for increasingly stupid reasons on all levels of society in all aspects of life.

I think the level of stupidity/maturity is the same, its just that with current technology it is much easier for people to interact and communicate. so it just feels that way because we are exposed to it more.

As far as maturity levels in GW go, join a good guild. Makes a world of difference.

agent of ascalon · Aug 11, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48

As someone said before, I don't think anyone really cares if you guys are married or not, that would be like saying "Hi I'm the best person in the games brother" No one wants to know, just get a decent pvp guild and learn your style.

pepys · Aug 11, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

I tend to mentally filter out the trench mouth or uncheck the channels I don't want to read. MMO is a harsh environment and not for the easily shocked.

If I'm just henchin then I move to someplace quiet like the int'l server which is almost too quiet - just about spooky potty quiet.

Mature? I'm probably among the oldest playin the game.

Superdarth · Aug 11, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

No,there are not.

See thats the whole problem,at least 80% but i think 90% are either assholes,selfish jerks or kids.

The community just sucks but there are nice guys around who do want an organized team,im one of those and i can say that i dont even bother acting nice since i expect some lameass comment in return for my kindness,im nice to others yes but friggin hard to contact or get as a long-term ally.

The bottom line:Most are just immature jerks and those who arnt probably keep hidden from public view.

On a side note i have been paired in pvp arenas and missions alike with incompetent,stubborn,foolish or childish persons,yet on very rare occasions i do manage to rally such a group to do stuff according to a plan i make in my mind,it works because they usually have no idea what there doing anyway!

Enchanted Warrior · Aug 11, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by xiaotsu

There's a reason the character can't disappear when you ignore them...it's called "PvP", and I'd rather not die because I ignored someone and can't see them in the battle.

Erm, other than the monthly fee part of your post, I whole-heartedly agree.

Yes, it was a redundant statement. That said who cares about pvp. I'm so tired of hearing people whine about pvp being effected if this is done, or that is done. PVP is not worth my time or effort.

Now to those getting mad, how does it feel to be written off based on your game choice? Not too good does it? Now you have an idea how pve people feel when pvpr's act like they are the only players in the game. No offense xiaotsu, just using your words to drive home a point.

2ndName · Aug 11, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

The monthly fee has nothing to do with the amount of childish and rude people in MMORPG. I think that there will be more kids who are rude if there is a monthly fee. Why? Because the ones that will be able to play are the spoiled ones who gets things for free from their rich parents.

I have not run into many childish people in GW. And I love PuGs aside from the guild that I am in. Once I do, I just set them in my ignore box.

BunnyMaster · Aug 11, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by Energizer Deth Buni

Sorry to hear that OP, but this game is about PVP. Most of the PVP guilds I have seen are full of tension and pissed off people. People demanding that no one make any mistakes... etc. You see this when you go to Tombs or Elite missions. People demanding that you have a specific build or get out. The developers have unfortunately made a game for Elitism and recently confessed to it.

Demanding ppl to concentrate on the fight and looking for ways to improve the team by asking them what skills they could take is normal. And tension? Of course there has to be a lvl of tension before you start the fight. It's not about being Elitist, but demanding that everyone does his/her best.

@ OP:
Just look for a Guild and join it if you think it suits you. If not, just leave. That's how I've been playing this game and I've seen lots of guilds, both good/mature ones and bad/childish/immature ones.

And in the end: like the sun needs the night to be it's counterpart, this community needs the immature and rude ppl so we will KNOW what we dislike.

Enchanted Warrior · Aug 11, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I feel as follows..

I payed to play gw, not to raise the kids of parents that cannot disipline their children as a result of not caring or too busy. And those that are not technically children should be banned after the second offense. Trash talk is one thing, hate speak, racial slurs, obscenties, sexual inuendo, and alike are the passtime of the seriously disturbed or the drastically immature, regardless of chronological age. I'm over 40 and still say Sir, or Maam, etc.. I was raised right, to be respectful. I'm no saint mind you, but I cannot see any reasonable purpose served by people being as nasty as they want to be, just because they think they can.

led-zep · Aug 11, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

its not that 90% are selfish jerks, im sure they are fine to their real life friends that play but to anonymous people who they will never know and never see they just dont feel the need to extend certain kindnesses. if a friend pee's you off you take it on the chin, if a complete stranger does it then you either leave them to it (quit a group in these situations) or retaliate, and as text is the only form of retaliation then yeah 90% of people will be abusive in that situation.

Hanharr · Aug 11, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Just ignor them...

not that hard.

gabrial heart · Aug 11, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

I agree, but a monthly fee is'nt going to eliminate egos, look at wow, it's about a millions times worse.

Most of my guild is younger, but not all of them are immature. As a matter of fact most of the older guys in my guild are the *stay at home smoke pot get offensive all-the-time* types. I love playing with a lot of my guildies, but I would really like to find a better group of people that have given up on the ego salad tossing bs. Oh well, there's a few here and there. Perhaps this is a good chance to form up a mature guild? I could probably grab a dozen people. We could call it Guru Dot Com (tm)

Astro Pubes · Aug 11, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann

Yeah, here's a couple points I would like to make:

Local chat is FTL.
Kiddies are annoying, but someone has to loose to you in PvP
If you think idiots who talk about Marijuana are annoying, wait until you talk to people who won't stop drinking the Mountain Dew/Red Bull/Expresso.
Forums are FTW. Get in a guild by posting in the "Looking for Guild?" thread here. That is the best way to get into a good guild, period.

I resent the statement about the mountain dew, as i'm an avid mountain dew code red drinker, just because we get a hell of a sugar rush and super hyper doesn't mean we're bad people does it?

on subject, there are many mature players out there you're just looking in the wrong areas that's all, and congrats on the husband/wife team play, there are many more out there like yourself with the husband/wife teams, heck the guild i'm in the, the original guild leaders were a husband wife team and for the husbands birthday she got him FoW armor and for hers he got her FoW armor.